Beth found John's death in Vietman very hard. He had done his National Service and was dicharged by the army but chose to go because his mates were going. Beth told me he had planned to go to Moore College when he came back to train for the ministry.

There's an amusing story about Marie and Beth. My gran went to Mosman to visit their mother Muriel her niece. Muriel was out so the girls thought "what would Mum have done?" She'd have made scones, so they made scones and they were awful. So gran said "Come on I'll give you a lesson in scone making." when Muriel came home all three were in the kitchen with aprons on and gran was teaching them how to make scones — Beth never forgot the lesson.